FEATURE
| William Sanderson: As Good As They Come
WRITTEN BY Kai Alexis Smith
MODA MAGAZINE -- William Sanderson might not exactly be a
household name just yet, but this talented actor certainly isn't
camera-shy and his filmography is lengthy. Many might recognize
him as Larry from New Hart or
in one of his most notable film roles as J.F. Sebastian in Blade
Runner or if you still can’t pin point who he you may recognize
him as E.B Farnum in HBO's popular show, Deadwood.
While such an accomplished actor in both his career and life
experience can be intimidating, Sanderson is anything but. When I got
to know William or Billy as he says many call him, I learned that
Billy wasn’t as “Hollywood” as I’d imagined. He was just a
simple Southern man very grateful for the cards he has been dealt and
dead set on trying to make me laugh until my cheeks cramped into
place.
Like his idol Elvis
Presley, Sanderson spent two years in the army. Afterwards, he
attended Southern Methodist University, and went on to earn a BBA
degree and JD law degree from Memphis State. Perhaps unsure of whether
law was the right path, Sanderson followed his instincts and opted out
of the bar exam to New York for a shot at acting. Since then,
Sanderson has amounted an impressive career with many diverse roles in
films and shows with some of Hollywood's best including the likes of
Sissy Spacek, Bruce Willis, John Candy, Faye Dunaway and Tom Hanks.
THE
EARLY YEARS...
KAS: I know that you
were in the army and have a BBA and a Juris Doctorate. What lead you
to switch to acting?
WS: That’s the most difficult question to
answer intelligently. [Chuckling.] I just loved the theater as a kid,
but sports were my obsession. I had a friend in the theater but I was
too shy to try out. You can say I had a late start since I finally got my
nerve up to try out when I was in grad school. Once I started doing
it, acting was fun. The heart has its reasons which reason doesn’t
always understand. Going into acting wasn’t rational.
KAS:
Do you wish you ever pursued your career in law instead of
acting?
WS: Not really. Not seriously … but I guess
saving somebody’s life would be a noble thing to do. I am not sure
acting is so noble. But I have never regretted it. I do think making
people laugh is a valuable social service.
KAS: I know that you
are a big fan of Elvis Presley and that you grew up in and around
Memphis in the 1950's. Do you think your love for music or admiration
for the King has influenced your acting or career?
WS: Music is the most ideal of the arts. I envy
great singers and musicians. They inspire me. Honestly, as a kid I
probably wanted to be Elvis. I wasn’t any good at music so I ended
up in show business.
KAS: Who had the
greatest influence on your career when you were first starting out as
an actor? Is that person still the biggest influence in your career?
WS: A wonderful Australian director named Barry
Fuller was a great influence. He was very compassionate towards people
who wanted to break into the business and very supportive. David Milch
is another great influence. He is a great writer and I believe he is a
genius. He does things a certain way and wants things done perfectly.
ON
ACTING...
KAS: I’ve noticed
throughout your career you’ve jumped from TV to film and vice versa.
For example you went from Deadwood
to The Promised Land. Do you prefer acting for TV or film?
WS: Well, I’ll put it this way I love movies,
they are like a mistress. I have a great passion for them, but TV is
my life. [Pause.] I love them both really. The whole acting business
is a young person’s business if you look at it very generally. I am
just thrilled to have survived in it.
I remember when I was
in movies and people would come up to me and say, “Why aren’t you
in a series?” In the 80s, I got on the Newhart
Show and then people would ask me “Why aren’t you doing more
movies?” Honestly, I like a regular job. Deadwood
is like making a little movie. It takes three weeks and seven to eight
months out of the year and by then I’m ready to rest.
KAS:
You’ve done quite a bit of westerns such as Deadwood,
Lonesome Dove and Maverick
to name a few. Do you prefer acting in westerns more?
WS: Not really. I can’t win a beauty contest.
[Laughter.] They probably see me as some rural redneck. I remember
working with David Garner and some drunken crew member said that “if
they bring back westerns you’ll work forever.” No one works
forever, but it was nice to hear. I also did a number of science
fiction projects, which are like modern day westerns: aliens,
eccentrics, off beat misfits and outcasts. I pretty much take what
comes along. It’d be nice to plan your life out and have it happen
just like that. Or to start at the top and stay there like Oscar Wilde
said.
KAS: Do you think since
you’ve played in so many westerns you’ve been typecasted or
stereotyped into a certain role? If so, what have you done to get out
of that?
WS: Well time will tell, but I’d rather be
typecast then not cast at all. I’m very grateful for the cult film Blade
Runner. I went through two hours of latex and make up and in that
I at least got to play the sympathetic as well as the renegades.
Maybe, I guess … I don’t know. Maybe … but I’m keeping the
money.
Do you think I have
been?
KAS: Well …
WS: A lot of the films
I’ve worked on people haven’t seen them. A lot of people call them
bottom feeders.
KAS: Noooo.
WS: Well, I’m terribly easy. [Laughter.] I’m
kind of lazy. You have to drive yourself. I am also polite. In this
business in order to succeed you have to be polite. So consider me a
journeyman but I a happy one. People think that being happy is form of
mental illness, but I am happy.
[Both laugh.]
KAS: I try to always be
happy so people must think I am crazy.
WS: Well, then you are. [Laughter.] Nah, I am
just being facetious. Not to be too heavy, but there is a war going
on, there is poverty, there are Katrina victims. I am not self
promoting. I could say this guy has a bigger dressing room or I
don’t have a big enough helicopter or jet. What really is important
to me is to think about my wonderful wife and son. And the other
things come and go.
KAS: That’s great
that you are really grounded.
WS: Well I am trying to say something to keep
from boring you.
[Laughter]
KAS: Nooo. I’m not
bored. I am intrigued by you. I have done so much research on you.
Your career fascinates me.
WS: Well, thank you. Can I tell you something I
learned from the star of the show Newhart?
KAS: Of course.
WS: In Hollywood, they will tell you that you are
brilliant. Bob told me one time “Billy, that’s Hollywood’s word
for fair.” He’d tell me it’s a joke. But when you compliment me
I should say “thank you.” You know I have all kinds of things to
keep my head from swelling. I’d say that for every thirty people
that don’t like me there are fifty that never heard of me. You just
try to hear the applause, compliment, enjoy it and then politely leave
it. As a matter of fact, I like my insecurity and self doubt. That’s
what drives me. But it’s hard on my wife.
When I was working on Coal
Miner’s Daughter I was learning how to take a compliment because
I was around Sissy Spacek. With all the hyperbole in Hollywood they
will do that to motivate you to keep going.
DEADWOOD...
KAS: So let’s talk a
bit about Deadwood. What attracted you to the role of E.B. Farnum?
WS: Actually,
my daughter heard about it while I was visiting my son on the east
coast through her friend whose husband is an actor. She told the agent
about me and they put my name in there. And for some reason, I got the
role with out too much difficulty. The director of the pilot was
Walter Hill. He directed a lot of movies like 48
Hours and he had directed me in a film with Bruce Willis called Last
Man Standing. So he knew I’d show up sober. [Laughter.]
There is a great
country singer, much older than you. He got thrown into San Quentin,
but when he was much younger he got put in jail and escaped. They say
one time the jailers must have liked him and left the doors open for
him. I feel like somebody left the door open for me.
KAS:
Deadwood was nominated for 11 Emmys® and two Golden
Globe® Awards in its debut season. When you got the
character of Farnum did you expect the series to be such a success?
WS: With Milch’s background on NYPD
Blue and his credentials of teaching at Yale, the cast thought it
had a chance. I try not to get my hopes up, but when something nice
happens I’m presently surprised. But there were a lot of people who
were optimistic and still are about the show. I don’t know how it
will play out though. We’ll see we’ll see.
KAS: Do you think it
will go on for a couple more seasons?
WS: HBO has offered several years, but we are
certainly in the middle of the third season, which will go on in June.
I do believe it will be very exciting because of the tremendous actors
we’ve got.
KAS: The cast is
amazing as well as the writing. HBO always produces great series.
WS: HBO has a little more liberty than the other
networks. They can do sex and violence, but there will be humanity
among the characters. Also they make shows for the intellectuals.
I have a superficial
mind. Deadwood is like what
they are trying to do in Iraq. They are trying to build a democracy
and it is not pretty. People die and they use brute force and people
don’t want to give up their power struggles. I’m proud to play a
real life mayor who survived and did well though they fictionalize him
as a buffoon. Milch will be writing a book about combining fiction and
reality in the characters in Deadwood.
KAS: What is going to happen to E.B. Farnum in the new season?
WS: He keeps getting in trouble. H doesn’t own
the hotel. He is the manager, so he has insecurities. He is surviving
at this moment. But honestly I don’t know what’s next by the end
of the season. No actor does. It is one way the director and writers
keep the actors guessing.
Deadwood is just great fun. Acting is reacting and I have a lot of
great actors to react to. Especially the ones that come over from
England, they seem to bring so much. Like Ian Mc Shane and I’ll
leave somebody out so I don’t sound like I’m pimping. [Chuckling.]
HBO does a good job of casting their shows whether it’s Entourage
or Sex in the City.
KAS:
Anything to look forward to?
WS: They started re-airing the second season on
HBO and those who didn’t get to see last season can catch up. I
think it starts in February. We got some new characters as well. One
of them is the British actor named Brian Cox. He is in the new Woody
Allen film Match Point.
Brian plays in the theater troop that comes to town and we have a
bunch of bizarre characters there. And we have this great character
named George Hearst. He comes to town trying to buy up all the
gold and for some reason, one of the characters
is very vicious. I think this will be a season that the
audiences will like because there is a lot of trouble brewing.
THINGS TO LOOK FORWARD TO aka NEW
PROJECTS...
KAS: I know that you
have a new film coming out. You play Rat Kinneson in the new film Disappearance which is in post production now. Can you talk about
the film a bit and your character’s role in the story?
WS: I did Disappearance
last summer. It was based on a book. And I’m in it with Chris
Cristopherson. In the industry it’s considered an independent and it
probably won’t get into Sundance,
but I kept the money. You know I got to meet Chris who is a great poet
and scholar. I may not be Tom Hanks, but one of my claims to fame is
always mentioning people I’ve met. So many of the actors I’ve
worked with have been Academy Award winners.
But there is no major
film to tell you about.
I’ve been in
cartoons; the last one was the Higgly
Town Heroes. Now I don’t know if they’ve cut me out of that or
not, but I use to do more like Batman
and Buffy, but there isn’t
much time to do other work when you are on a series like Deadwood. I may have time here and there to do a few commercials and
then whatever.
Self deception thrives
in the compost of flattery. Out in Hollywood they raise that to an
art. You should shave your head and say he’s crazy.
[Laughter.]
THE FUTURE...
KAS:
What would you like fans to know about you that is not the
image of the role you played on Deadwood or else where?
WS: That I would love to be a mercenary or a
gladiator, [Laughter.] instead of the pathetic characters I play.
[Laughter.] That at heart I am an assassin. That’s it. [Laughter.]
You’re thinking, he thinks
he’s a potential Charles Manson. [Laughter.] He’s really crazy too because he wanted to be a song writer. He’s an
example of one of those people that don’t reach their goals.
[Laughter.] Look at Hitler he wanted to be a damn artists. I’m just
this buffoon on a TV show who doesn’t know what he will do. I hope
you get the gist of what I am trying to saying.
KAS:
Yes, I do. Is there something you haven’t been able to
accomplish in your life that you hope to soon?
WS: Career or personal? [Chuckling.] Oh, I know
you are talking professionally. [Laughter.] To take myself less
seriously.
KAS:
What is in the future for William Sanderson?
WS: I guess to find out who William Sanderson is.
[Laughter.] You can make the joke. He doesn’t know who he is.
[Laughter.]
Picasso was in Europe
and this person said this woman doesn’t like you. Picasso said which
one, so if someone ever says they don’t like me, I’d say which
one. You know we are several different people like when some deceives
you or when someone threatens your family.
KAS:
Do you have anything further to add?
WS:
Live’in and love’in and loosing gracefully. [Laughter.] I
am going to deny I took myself so seriously. [Laughter.]
For more information about William Sanderson,
visit: http://www.williamsanderson.net
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